'Smokers should go on a slower waiting list'

“Christ, who in the world votes for these scary little men? Will Olympic athletes not be treated for sports injuries? Who decides what is or is not 'self-inflicted'?

We have Cameron outsourcing government to the EU, Hague trying to install the MB across the Middle East and North Africa, Schapps tying to downsize the homes of our elderly, May opening our borders beyond affordability, Clarke justifying the protection of terrorists, Lansley breaking up the NHS, Hammond dismantling the army, Osborne bailing out the Euro through the IMF, Mitchell giving our tax money to countries that want to destroy us and most of our MPs wanting to snoop on our emails and internet activity.

We need to get UKIP into every level of government asap!”

“Sooner we have more UKIP in council, the better. Everyone British national who has paid into the system has a right to national health treatment for themselves and their families. UKIP counsillors are too busy helping their community to lecture them!”

“Cllr Butcher might like to know that he has incorrect information in any case. It may seem as though smokers cost the NHS more but in fact research shows that people who look after themselves and live longer are actually more expensive. Their longer lives mean they get more 'wear and tear' problems like hips, cataracts, skin cancers etc... and they are far more likely to live long enough to get the really expensive chronic conditions like dementia. On top of that of course they haven't been paying extra tax - cigarette smokers are estimated to contribute over £12 billion pounds to the exchequer a year. There are many good reasons for looking after your health, but saving the rest of us money is not one of them.
And personally I really don't wish to live in a society that judges others in such an appalling way. Is he seriously suggesting that we make smokers wait longer for cancer treatment?
I'm sure that unless the councillors is a saint, a closer look at his own lifestyle might reveal things that could attract an accusation involving glass houses and stones.”

“This man fails again to understand what addiction means. It tooks me nearly 8 months to quit smoking, and it hurt I can tell you. It took me about the same time to come of perscription drugs from my GP because they didn't help what so ever. I was part of the perscription culture but decided enough was enough. Mr Butcher doesn't realise, that alongside all the cocktail chemicals that are put in to all foods, the pollution in our airways, politics that completely dissaccociated away from real life with politicians making ill thought out policies that causes yet more stress to the individual. It is getting harder and harder to loose wieght, to abandoned comforts. The sodium flouride in our water that is toxic, and the radiation being filtered from HD tv and mobile phones, that obesity, addictions of food or drugs, alcohol is practically part of the consequences. Why not stop blaming the problem on people being over wieght or smoking too much and so on, and go to the top of the chain, the pyramid and stop the toxic rubbish being lashed out at us by toxic corporations and politics. This may stop the increase in stress in folks life, it would be the best start rather than blaming people for smoking. You'll find a healthier society would generate healtheir minds, and a way of living also.”

“Words of warning to imperfect human beings from the Butcher of Surrey.”

“Without doubt this 'idea' has shades of nazi ideology, not uncommon in the current anti-smoker campaign agenda of de-normalization, de-humanisation and minority discrimination. Normal people can take heart through parallels in history though. Hitler was a tea-total 'healthist' and fanatical anti smoker. As a non smoker, he suffered from Parkinson's disease (prevented by smoking) and had heart problems at an early age. In the latter days of the war, Hitler was increasingly prone to angry outbursts that exacerbated the tremors in his hands and highlighted his degenerating brain function. He did not take advantage of the brain enhancing benefits of nicotine that Churchill and Roosevelt did. Very fortunate for the civilized free World!

Butcher is no Hitler, probably just, as already mentioned, apparently barking!


Butcher is no Hitler but just, as already mentioned, apparently barking!”

“Rather akin to the eugenics policy of the nazis in the 30s .If we are going down the line of witholding treatment from sections of the community then those people like this barking mad councillor who advocated it should also be at the back of the NHS queue in order to improve the gene pool.
If JB has got nothing to say sensible its probably best if he says nothing.”

“Why should this pathetic idiot have the right to 'free speech' when the rest of us most certainly do not.
We can't say what we think without being subject to charges of one or another forms of 'ism'.”

“The NHS is for ALL. I hope that Mr Butcher takes no part in activities which could cause injury or could affect his health in any way.”